Shoot With Kerli and Audrey Kitching (May 2011)

secretpersonfp wrote:If a porn star or stripper or naked magazine model is comfortable with her body does that make it alright? Just saying.

In my opinion yes. If a guy has the right to show his upper torso (which that considers nudity) all over the place without much ridicule and people shrugging as though it's ok and sexy then a women has the same right.If a man wears a corset which some men do many wouldnt call him slutty or trashy.Just saying.But let me remind that this is my opinion by what experience I've seen. I'm not saying this in general.

VaciQ wrote:

secretpersonfp wrote:If a porn star or stripper or naked magazine model is comfortable with her body does that make it alright? Just saying.

Yes it does,it's not our bussiness just answering.

I agree. Anyways, it's cool to have different mindsets and opinions. If everyone agrees with every thing then the world would be boring

are the finished pictures up somewhere already?

^ Nope. I don't see anything new posted yet.

Another thing to add; humans were born naked. I don't believe it's something to be ashamed of or try to hide, and it is seem by some as art :/ Kerli talks about being whoever the fuck you wanna be right, regardless of what others think. So if you want to have less clothes on, go for it, be you. The human body is a beautiful thing, why hide it all the time x3 It's just that (in my opinion) society has sexualized it too much. I.L.U guys <3

have not seen any new pics

I'm sorry every time I read

"If a guy has the right to show his upper torso"

all I can think of is some of the big American bookstores censoring a magazine with Andrej Pejic on the cover because apparently it's obscene for feminine men with long hair to be seen shirtless.

Nudity is such a touchy thing, there's a huge difference between art and being nude to appear 'sexy' and until we see the final product we really can't say it's 'art'. Just because a person is creative it doesn't mean everything they do is art...
If Kerli's comfortable with her body that's fine but I don't need to see an singer's body all the time to appreciate their art because it shouldn't be about how they look, it should be about how they sound and I don't want Kerli to forget that like the general public seems to have

^

I think I know who you talking about and I think it's stupid for magazines to censor that. I'm mostly thinking about muscular dudes who look like their are on steroids, that is just nasty to me in my opinion and sometimes it's not sexy to me. I can understand that not every piece of nudity is art and some are more conservative. There has to be a limit. But if one is an adult, what can one do? It's the person's decision. All we can do is make opinions, look or turn away. I appreciate an artist until they do something that go against my morals. I don't care if they dress that way or not.

I first was into Kerli because of her music, not her body. Now if it's about underage dressing that way, that it's a hell no with me. That's a limit. I don't give a damn if it's art or not. I am glad Kerli is comfortable with herself expression wise. But this is one type of confidence in my opinion, this doesn't equal confidence as a whole. Me wearing dark makeup and cutting my perm out to grow my natural hair back equals confidence to me because it shows my true self and my art. Confidence and expression comes in so many forms.

I agree with you. Music shouldn't be about "looks". It should be about music. I mean that's the point of music.I remember in High School My guy friends only liked britney spear's on the count of her "Looks" & cause she dressed cheap. So that's the only reason the guy's brought her CDS. I guess i don't want people to buy kerlis CD just cause they think shes hot.(guys) I want them to buy her cds based on how good her music is. If that makes sence. I guess what i was meaning to say. Is i don't want non- kerli fans to get the inpresstion that she's just another "sexy" pop singer. But we kerli fans know she's not meaning it in the "sexy" why.Does that make sence?

But before i say anymore.Im gonna waite to see the pics before i can really judge.That's just how i was thinking. I still love kerli no matter what.Maybe my oppion and why i think really comes down to why i was brought up. I mean iam open minded and i respect every ones thinking.

Amin

Mimi wins haha.

I agree but just because some artists do things that everyone isn't pleased about doesn't mean that's all they are or everyone can read a person's life instantly. As they all say, one just can't please everyone. Anyways, this can go on forever. So I'll just wait and see.

mimi wrote:

that's why I love Adele!

Why should we care what Adele thinks? This is not about Adele,it's about Kerli! And guys,we didn't even saw the pictures only one backstage photo

^ Again, I agree.

Wow, a picture does worth a thousand words. Literally.

I didn't put this here to get Adele's point of view across. that's what i think as well. i love kerli to bits but some of the outfits get the attention for all the wrong reasons. yeah i get what u mean that its their money etc etc, but u can get attention without showing every inch of ur skin. especially when kerli has said that her body is her temple and for only people she's in love with.

^ I deleted that comment because I don't want to go back and fourth after I said that I'll wait XD, but I agree on what Adele says as well as you, don't get me wrong but part of me doesn't get why many is up at arms if things hasn't been finished especially since many here are fans of Lady Gaga (as well as me) and Emilie Autumn who also do things similar like this so many times on what Kerli did with this photo shoot. I also don't have a clear cut understanding on what Kerli's intentions are by doing this photo shoot. But I will say that some of her outfits are a bit out of place sometimes. Anywho, I got a better understanding on what you and other's are trying to say now. So thank you

mimi wrote:I didn't put this here to get Adele's point of view across. that's what i think as well. i love kerli to bits but some of the outfits get the attention for all the wrong reasons. yeah i get what u mean that its their money etc etc, but u can get attention without showing every inch of ur skin. especially when kerli has said that her body is her temple and for only people she's in love with.

^^^ this.

you cannot say your body is your temple and preach integrity and dress the way she does sometimes. It's hypocritical and makes me wonder if she just says things sometimes because she knows it is what we want to hear.

^ I thought her mindset was always like that, to just be creative. I didn't know she preached anything. Jeez, I hope she's not gonna make the same mistake as many artists do, talk one way and do something else. That's how I lost all respect for many artists. Anyways, I'll see for myself when the official pictures come around.

secretpersonfp wrote:

mimi wrote:I didn't put this here to get Adele's point of view across. that's what i think as well. i love kerli to bits but some of the outfits get the attention for all the wrong reasons. yeah i get what u mean that its their money etc etc, but u can get attention without showing every inch of ur skin. especially when kerli has said that her body is her temple and for only people she's in love with.

^^^ this.

you cannot say your body is your temple and preach integrity and dress the way she does sometimes. It's hypocritical and makes me wonder if she just says things sometimes because she knows it is what we want to hear.

Yeah,Good point.but we need to waite now and see pics before we can fully judge.

secretperson - exactly! or like most parents say 'do as i say not as i do'..

and i dont think the discussion here is only about this photoshoot in particular. im sure the pictures will look super hot. for me - the discussion is about her choice of clothes overall.. or the lack of clothes.

mimi wrote:secretperson - exactly! or like most parents say 'do as i say not as i do'..

and i dont think the discussion here is only about this photoshoot in particular. im sure the pictures will look super hot. for me - the discussion is about her choice of clothes overall.. or the lack of clothes.

exactly! What is the saying I am think of...hmmm "Actions speak louder than words" and "do not listen with your ears, listen with your eyes" or something like this hahahaha

all the pop singer's dress kind of like that. :sexy image" sells/

I adored Kerli the way she was before. She was herself, she didn't pay attention to her body and sexiness, she paid attention to her lyrics and the goal she wanted to receive- to make music and CHANGE something in this world.
I know we all change, but sometimes I really wonder why she says that "appeareance doesn't matter", "you must be beautiful inside not outside" etc, if she herself doesn't follow these things. lately, she only puts attention to her OUTFITS. everything else is on the background.

I agree. It seems she's thinking about the attention she's going to get when making her outfits, she hasn't been talking about her music lately.

I agree.Iam glad am not the only one who feels this why.

Her CD won't be arriving anytime soon. So it's gonna be a long wait til anything new comes up since she's still keeping things hush hush. Every question is the same asking about the music and Kerli is not giving much info. I too wish she talks more about the music, but unless she giving anything away there's just gonna be more waiting. I still don't see any finished pictures yet, so I don't know what to think still.

It's hard for her to talk about the music without giving anything away though since it's a "concept". And based on what SecretPerson said about listening with your eyes; looks can be deceiving. I believe in listening with your heart above all else. I mean, I found Kerli out of thin air and when I actually needed someone like her in my life, so idk, it's hard for me to think she's not really caring about the music anymore/as much as she used to, and more interested with looks. I mean, aren't we all moonchildren and representing "Bubblegoth". If she can't talk about the music, the style we're all creating is kinda the only thing to really focus on with her fans, so maybe the purpose of a photoshoot is to get "our" look out in the world. I know this conversation is just dragging on now since no new pics are up lol but still, each of us have different representations of this look and maybe it's what she wants, or maybe she's being told to do dress this way. She's always been a girl who wants to live life to the fullest and just enjoy it, she doesn't need anyone's opinions to make her want to do the things she does because she is who she is. On top of it all, there's always SOMETHING you won't like about things someone does. So just learn to kinda accept it in a weird way and don't rely solely on her to be everything you want her/yourself to be. <3

^ This x2. Being a MoonChild is about creative and personal freedom, as well as I.L.U. It's impossible for all of us to always like everything about Kerli's way of expressing herself, but we should respect her for being herself. All of us would expect the same thing of anyone else, and feel offended or upset if anyone said something was "wrong" with how we choose to dress or lead our lives.

I don't think Kerli cares any less about art and music than she did at the start of her career. Like ElvenSoldier said, she can't talk very much about her music right now because she's keeping her ideas secret, but I highly doubt that means any less of her focus is on music behind the scenes.

Besides, Kerli radiates beauty, so why shouldn't she dress the way she does? Especially seeing as she always proves to be elegant and sophisticated and nothing else (in my opinion at least) no matter how much or how little she's wearing. She's said before that she wouldn't "flash her stash" for the sake of getting attention for it, so that's all good with me. I'm a firm believer in the saying "If you've got it, flaunt it!" If you're confident about the way you look, you should feel free to show it, any way you choose to.

^ I agree with both of you.

Yeah,I know.That's true. I do want her to be happy.

This one is great Kerli is pretty on here. It looks natural, 100% pure beauty without "adding too many details" hippie chicks!

I love that girl's heart sunglasses and from the looks of it, I don't see much to worry about Kerli.

I love this picture, it's so sunny and sweet lol Love the flower tiara thing Kerli's rockin'

this shoot is different, right? THis is for Audrey clothing line not this one where they styled each other.

Yeah they're for Audrey's "clothing line" Toykolux

wow!..cool

I've pretty much skimmed through the thread, and I don't know if it's so clever of me to jump right into the discussion at 2 am when I'm so tired I don't know what. But I think it's better to this before I forget.

I think you people are being way too sensitive about this whole thing, and whiny tbh. You haven't even seen the pictures of the finished photoshoot yet, so you shouldn't really judge the whole situation and absolutely not Kerli herself. The nudity isn't very extreme either. And it feels like you are trying to force your ideals and thoughts about it on either Kerli and/or each other. Kerli has a beautiful body and she's free to show it off. She's still being herself, and she's not even close to showing either her breasts or hoo-hah (god I love that word). And I don't think she'll ever consider it.

Also; There are nudity and there is artistic nudity. But I don't see what Kerli is doing as any kind of nudity. She's still far from it in my opinion and to be honest I would have done the same - I think it's beautiful to show a little skin as long as you do it in a tasteful way (TBH I would have done the exakt same thing as her). And we don't even know what's going around in her head; maybe she's just in a phase where she plays around with the limits a bit more than usual? Let her be free to experiment and try to express herself in various ways without you getting "BLEHBLEH I PREFER THE OLD KERLI".

She's still the same old Kerli, just different clothes. She still cares about her fans and does lovely music. And besides, she can't please everyone. But just let her be human and experiment and evolve. Maybe she'll think back and wonder what the hell she was thinking of in a year or so, maybe she'll look back and be proud. We. Don't. Know.

I think you guys also are a bit way to quick to jump the gun, you have only seen ONE BLURRY BACKSTAGE PICTURE. Nothing to get your panties in a bunch about. So you better calm down before we see someone make a "LEAVE KERLI ALONE" video on YT.

I'm sorry if I come across as rude or anything, I'm very harsh when it comes to expressing myself.

You're not coming across as rude but I think a lot of the problem is the discussion veered away from this one image to how Kerli has been portraying herself in general lately. Some people got that and went along for the ride others think everyone is riled up over one crappy backstage picture.
For me it's not the nudity that bothers so much as how lately Kerli's been all about her image/sexuality whereas before she was not. I do not care if she wants to go in this direction, it's her life, her choices. I'm not trying to force her to be what I want her to be. However it's seemed (at times) lately that her image and her message are two separate things. It comes across as hypocritical, which is what bothers me. She's always talked about how she wouldn't be that girl whose using her body to sell her music but lately she's been pushing that boundary, which if that's the way she wants to go then fine but she can't 'preach' the opposite of her actions. She said Dollface is about wanting to be taken seriously and if she's being a hypocrit it's the quickest way for people to discredit her. (idk if I'm getting my point across, I'm not the most eloquent person)

^ that.

most of the discussion wasn't over this one photoshoot. that just gave this discussion a spark. everybody has the right to express their opinion - either you like the new style or you dont. kerli has always said she wants us to think for ourselves and not blindly follow her.

most of all - this is purely a discussion. nobody is forcing their ideas on anybody.

I got the impression people are acting a little bit too upset about the whole thing and need to calm down, but I might have read a bit too much into it. And I'm not talking only about the photoshoot itself.

But like I said, I don't think she's been portraying her sexually or using her body to sell. Maybe she's not seeing it as that either. Like I said - I would have done the same. And to be honest - I want to see where this is going.

And like I also wrote; she might be playing around with the boundaries and experimenting. She might start covering herself up again soon.

I agree with mimi and Quincy.
Everyone has a right to express what they think. If it really gets rude, in this case it hasn't even get close to that, then I would delete the comment right away. we are not here to trash her, no way.

I have to agree with mimi & quincy to!.What quincy said is just how i was feeling.We all have a right to say how we are feeling.Not every one is gonna always gonna think the same has every-one.I think it's awesome that we all have our own minds and able to think for our selfs.no one was fourcing any-one to agree with eacher.

yep Quincy said it perfectly what I am thinking!

and Kuulaps is right we are not here for trashing. But Kerli said that she hopes we would call her out if she is start to let fame and attention get to her head and I think that's what we are kind of doing.

I just don't like to see one thing and hear something else. Hypocrisy is my biggest turn off.

Same here. No one was bashing or trashing anyone. We all just stating how we are feeling. And no one was fighting.We all respect eacher on how we feel.

same with me.. I don't THINK it's cool for a singer or anyone for that matter to preach about something.Then go along and do that.

JazzyTrazz wrote:So you better calm down before we see someone make a "LEAVE KERLI ALONE" video on YT.

Someone. Please. Make. This. lol

I don't really have a problem with what she's been wearing. She always wears hotpants under her tutus & she isn't running around in pasties or something. I guess it just looks like she's always ready for clubbing to me.
Now, if she was dry humping teddy bears on stage, I would be a bit creeped out by that.

I don't know much about this Audrey chick, except that I was looking up a shade of pink hair dye on Google images once and she kept popping up. The problem with that is that I've only seen pictures of her wearing wigs..so.. not helpful.